tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2624025509276578293.post4131895779094731764..comments2013-08-23T13:20:06.516-07:00Comments on Apostolos Makrakis: What is your opinion of Apostolos Makrakis?Apostolos Makrakishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00777242762338972881noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2624025509276578293.post-25718943144613252532013-08-23T13:20:06.516-07:002013-08-23T13:20:06.516-07:00One of Apostolos' errors, or so-called errors,...One of Apostolos' errors, or so-called errors, we must closely inspect and come to a conclusion, is his view of Christ's advancement in the flesh. I recalled this website, and decided to post this quote from St. Athanasios<br />"To men then belongs advance; but<br />the Son of God, since He could not advance, being perfect in the Father, humbled Himself for us,<br />that in His humbling we on the other hand might be able to increase. And our increase is no other than the renouncing things sensible, and coming to the Word Himself; since His humbling is nothing else than His taking our flesh. It was not then the Word, considered as the Word, who advanced; who is perfect from the perfect Father who needs nothing, nay brings forward others to an<br />advance; but humanly is He here also said to advance, since advance belongs to man. Hence the<br />Evangelist, speaking with cautious exactness, has mentioned stature in the advance; but being<br />Word and God He is not measured by stature, which belongs to bodies. Of the body then is the<br />advance; for, it advancing, in it advanced also the manifestation of the Godhead to those who<br />saw it. And, as the Godhead was more and more revealed, by so much more did His grace as man<br />increase before all men. For as a child He was carried to the Temple; and when He became a boy,<br />He remained there, and questioned the priests about the Law. And by degrees His body increasing,<br />and the Word manifesting Himself in it, He is confessed henceforth by Peter first, then also by all, ‘Truly this is the Son of God;’ however wilfully the Jews, both the ancient and these<br />modern, shut fast their eyes, lest they see that to advance in wisdom is not the advance of Wisdom<br />Itself, but rather the manhood’s advance in It. For ‘Jesus advanced in wisdom and grace;’ and, if<br />we may speak what is explanatory as well as true, He advanced in Himself; for ‘Wisdom builded<br />herself an house,’ and in herself she gave the house advancement. (What moreover is this advance that is spoken of, but, as I said before, the deifying and<br />grace imparted from Wisdom to men, sin being obliterated in them and their inward corruption,<br />according to their likeness and relationship to the flesh of the Word?) For thus, the body increasing in stature, there developed in it the manifestation of the Godhead also, and to all was it displayed that the body was God’s Temple, and that God was in the body. And if they urge, hat ‘The Word become flesh’ is called Jesus, and refer to Him the term ‘advanced,’ they must be told that neither does this impair3161 the Father’s Light, which is the Son, but that it still shews that the Word has become man, and bore true flesh. And as we said that He suffered in the flesh, and hungered in the flesh, and was fatigued in the flesh, so also reasonably may He be said to have advanced in the flesh; for neither did the advance, such as we have described it, take place with the Word external to the flesh, for in Him was the flesh which advanced and His is it called, and that as before, that man’s advance might abide and fail not, because of the Word which is with it. Neither then was the advance the Word’s, nor was the flesh Wisdom, but the flesh became the body of Wisdom.<br />Therefore, as we have already said, not Wisdom, as Wisdom, advanced in respect of Itself; but the manhood advanced in Wisdom, transcending by degrees human nature, and being deified, and<br />becoming and appearing to all as the organ of Wisdom for the operation and the shining forth3167<br />of the Godhead. Wherefore neither said he, ‘The Word advanced,’ but Jesus, by which Name the<br />Lord was called when He became man; so that the advance is of the human nature in such wise as<br />we explained above.<br /><br /><b> Discourse III</b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2624025509276578293.post-30700734811315933252012-07-22T16:32:57.065-07:002012-07-22T16:32:57.065-07:00The comment by Ralph Masters is yet further proof ...The comment by Ralph Masters is yet further proof that Makrakis's followers are deluded nutcases, no more deserving of theological attention than Charles Manson. Your sophomoric attempt to defame a Saint, and ridiculous idolisation of man who was, at best, a sad case of an intellectual led astray, are the perfect coda to this farce.Aaron Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17775589009145031773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2624025509276578293.post-63123961915306573882011-12-07T10:55:54.821-08:002011-12-07T10:55:54.821-08:00http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/48809958?access_k...http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/48809958?access_key=key-1lfmq4xa57evlwt3uvntΓεώργιος Ρούκαληςhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08607025117409334059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2624025509276578293.post-11463122893109487932011-12-07T10:53:56.212-08:002011-12-07T10:53:56.212-08:00http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/48809958?access_k...http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/48809958?access_key=key-1lfmq4xa57evlwt3uvntΓεώργιος Ρούκαληςhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08607025117409334059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2624025509276578293.post-59860281927261521812011-09-09T18:59:02.481-07:002011-09-09T18:59:02.481-07:00Let us be reasonable and truthful regarding Aposto...Let us be reasonable and truthful regarding Apostolos Makrakis and Philotheos Zervakos. The elder wrote that when the faithful partake of Holy Communion which is changed by the priest and the Holy Spirit, we must not suppose that the people partake of God himself, for if they did there would not be seventy gods like the ancient Greeks, had but thousand and thousands more." This statement is heretical, so much that he overthrows the Gospel of Jesus Chriost totaly. For my dear +Elder, you fail to judge your own statements and you are capable of judging a man who is greater than you in works that he produced? <br /> <br />We do partake of God himself in the Eucharist, and this is taught universally by all the Saints, by all the Fathers, by all the Teachers in the Church. We do indeed partake of the nature of God, which is His own essence. This is scriptural, for Peter says: "whereby are given to us exceedingly great and precious promnises, that by these you might be partkaers of the divne nature, having escaped the corrui[ption that is in the world through desire.<br />They condemned A. Makrakis unjustly, for teaching that man is triune, body, soul and spirit. But again this is the truth. God formed man and breathed into His person a spirit which came directly from Him, for "He breathed a breath of life", says Scripture. The spirit is from God but the body and soul are from the earth. This is unadulterated pure Orthodox doctrine. Christ the God man was not dual, body and soul, but was also filled with Holy Spirit. St. Seraphim says that this is the object of Christian life -- acquisition of Holy Spirit.<br />Listen IOrthodox Christians and see the unjust condemnation of Makrakis: After receiving the Body and Blood of Christ, we merrily sing: "We have seen the true light, we have received the Holy Spirit; Wehave found the true faith; worshipping the undivided Trinity. If anyone, including the Elder Zervagos paid attention to their Prayers before Communion, they would hear: "That I may have you dwellingh in me together with your Father and Holy Spirit."<br /><br />Makrakis was a giant! He produced a complete philosophical system. His Phiolosophy is perfect for it has Christ as its objective and it came from Christ as you will agree if you are not blinded by fanatic hatred for a saint that god sent into the world, hated by many monastice but beloved by those who learned from him. May his memory be eternal.<br />Ralph MasterjohnAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679898696266886629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2624025509276578293.post-66980738199815532892011-07-16T15:47:44.467-07:002011-07-16T15:47:44.467-07:00http://www.ApostolosMakrakis.blogspot.comhttp://www.ApostolosMakrakis.blogspot.comGeorgios Roukalishttp://www.ApostolosMakrakis.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2624025509276578293.post-1373056157922890882011-03-05T20:48:32.737-08:002011-03-05T20:48:32.737-08:00"When shall come the apostle of science and t..."When shall come the apostle of science and truth?" I read all the English translations of Makrakis and I surely say that he was the apostle of science and truth. A New Philosophy and the Philosophical Sciences...show me a better scientific English.vladimirhttp://vladimir.owcharuk@sbcglobal.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2624025509276578293.post-44545634165416545232011-03-05T20:46:31.154-08:002011-03-05T20:46:31.154-08:00"When shall come the apostle of science and t..."When shall come the apostle of science and truth?" I read all the English translations of Makrakis and I surely say that he was the apostle of science and truth. A New Philosophy and the Philosophical Sciences...show me a better scientific English.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2624025509276578293.post-84824597718477659392008-07-29T23:07:00.000-07:002008-07-29T23:07:00.000-07:00While Elder Philotheos's book on Makrakis hasn't b...While Elder Philotheos's book on Makrakis hasn't been translated yet, there is a very careful summary of its contents, as well as those of two shorter publications of his on the subject, in Constantine Cavarnos's book 'Blessed Elder Philotheos Zervakos', Vol. 11 in the Modern Orthodox Saints series from the Institute for Byzantine and Modern Greek Studies. The elder's views are made quite clear in this book. For this reason, I don't think it's necessary to spend an inordinate amount of time combing through whatever works of Makrakis's are in English and comparing them with the teachings of other Fathers and elders. We have a pretty clear testimony from a reliable guide to the Faith. Keep in mind, as well, that Elder Philotheos emphasises that he does not mean to say that there is nothing of value in Makrakis's writings, especially the earlier ones, only that they must be approached with caution.<BR/><BR/>If, however, someone was willing to pay me appropriately, I'd be willing to translate the elder's book on Makrakis! ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com